Post 17 ... Lou 2023-02-04 13:41:32

I'm in the process of implementing the phpBB forum which would make it easier to keep our topics from getting mixed up.
 

Post 16 ... Lou 2023-02-04 08:35:34

This is getting tedious.

Post 15 ... Chad 2023-02-03 22:59:41

Well, Mr. Spock, I'll try not to show any emotions either. So we will let it go at that. ;-)

Post 14 ... Lou 2023-02-03 19:48:14

Yes, let it go at that. I have never responded emotionally to anything you posted and do not plan to start now. After you have replied to this post, I will delete everything and get back to the exchange of ideas. 
 

Post 13 ... Chad 2023-02-03 17:16:23

Let it go at that. You have made your observations and arrived at your conclusions. I thought I may have transgressed your sensibilities feelings and possibly your beliefs. I agree getting to first principles is important. Agreeing on your terms is usually what we do. After all, it is your web page. I ask questions expecting an answer not the definitive answer or even a Biblical answer, but your personal thoughts on the matter at hand. The text is sacred but your thoughts are not. If it is a belief say I firmly believe this. I don't want to go any further. Please don't say that my position is the end ideas on the subject. Usually, we are in agreement or we can get what the other is getting at even if are not quite, eye to eye. We are different people from different backgrounds.

Post 12 ... Lou 2023-02-03 15:11:05

What we have been doing for years is fine with me. Recently you have started to worry about offending and being offended for no reason.
Ideas are to be ignored for lack of interest in the topic, commented upon, but never to be taken emotionally.
It seems to me that it's not unreasonable to insist on agreeing on the definition of terms.

The mission of this website is to focus on gospel prayers(both Christian and Vedantic). I use it that way every morning.

The Forum is secondary but very much appreciated. 
 

Post 11 ... Chad 2023-02-03 11:10:16

Yes, this isn't the first time I have misunderstood you. This time I found it irritating. I was tempted to withdraw from the site. At the moment I have nothing to say. I'm still not certain how to proceed.

Post 10 ... Lou 2023-02-02 09:35:31

This has to be done to try to make sure that there is no misunderstanding.
That you considered it rhetorical is proof that there is a misunderstanding.
I was not accusing you of anything and not even complaining but simply describing things as they were.
Let's stick to the material world.
 

 

Post 9 ... Lou 2023-02-02 08:18:26

It was not meant rhetorically. The last sentence proves that you do not understand and do not want to understand.

now let's move on;

Post 8 ... Chad 2023-02-01 19:36:43

Lou, that was a very intelligent response. I will consider it rhetorical as you suggest. You're right there is no reason to respond. Let's leave everything at the door and take our shoes off. ;-)

Post 7 ... Lou 2023-02-01 15:07:09

I  do not expect a reply to that post but you might want to reply to an individual point one point per post. 

Post 5 ... Lou 2023-02-01 15:05:25

If that was intended to be a reply to my post, as it should be, it proves that you do not read my posts or at least don't understand what I meant in which case asking for an explanation would be the way to go.

"I have accidentally and quite unintentionally bumped into sacred territory. " 
I have no idea that any sacred territory was involved.
"Please accept my apologies for being so ignorant of your feelings."
There were never any feelings involved on my part. It's not too likely that I have a love/hate feeling about the meaning of words and phrases.

"It takes me some time to grasp the situation, nothing personal was intended. It is my awkward questioning nature that doesn't serve me well at times."
Over the years, you have given me the impression that you were looking for answers only to turn around and agree or disagree with my answer and proclaim your own answer.

"I feel as dense as a telephone pole. After your endless attempts for me to see the light, it finally dawned on me what you were saying."
I never attempt to have you see the light but I simply answer your question from my sources.

"I think we should have a safe word that we can use when we feel pinned into a corner or where we don't feel comfortable."
Nothing that was said on this forum has ever made me feel pinned or uncomfortable and I feel that it should be the same for you since we are simply sharing ideas and not trying to bring others to our point of view. It is possible that Gary didn't see it that way but I have always been sure that we did not have any such problem.

"I'll be more sensitive to detecting when I'm starting to tread toward your deeply held beliefs that, as you say, are not expressible in ordinary conversation."
There are a whole lot of words, in the BCP for example, that do not mean the same as in ordinary conversation. The same applies to science, philosophy, theology, and many other domains. Besides, I am simply answering your question, not asking you to believe what I say.

I you want to use this forum this way instead of the way I suggested in post-1 it's ok with me but keep your post to no more than one(1) sentence. and wait for my answer. Our worldviews are close to being totally opposite of each other, no wonder there's so much misunderstanding. 
  Bottom line: At least on my part it's not a matter of feeling or belief but a reply to your posts.

Post 6 ... Lou 2023-02-01 14:29:57

I do not expect a reply to that post but you might want to reply to an individual point one point per post. 
 

Post 4 ... Chad 2023-02-01 09:55:01

I feel as dense as a telephone pole. After your endless attempts for me to see the light, it finally dawned on me what you were saying. I think we should have a safe word that we can use when we feel pinned into a corner or where we don't feel comfortable. I'll be more sensitive to detecting when I'm starting to tread toward your deeply held beliefs that, as you say, are not expressible in ordinary conversation.

Post 3 ... Lou 2023-02-01 08:36:01

I would like this forum to be strictly about the exchange of ideas. It was never a matter of feeling on my part but rather a matter of functionality. Agreeing on the meaning of words and phrases is what I insist on since it's the only way to know what we're talking about. 

These two posts don't belong here. Please use a phone call, Skype, or Zoom if you feel a need to discuss this sort of thing.

Ideas and counter-ideas are the only things that belong on this forum. 

Post 2 ... Chad 2023-01-31 21:00:01

I have accidentally and quite unintentionally bumped into sacred territory. Please accept my apologies for being so ignorant of your feelings. It takes me some time to grasp the situation, nothing personal was intended. It is my awkward questioning nature that doesn't serve me well at times.